C1Expressions

Ci e ne in usi idiomatici

Ci and ne in fixed expressions

È importante per me explains, Ci tengo says the same thing the way people actually talk.

Small words, new meaning

In many expressions ci and ne no longer stand for anything mentioned earlier. They are a fixed part of the verb and change its meaning, much like the particle in an English phrasal verb. Learn these verbs as a whole; dictionaries list them with the pronoun attached: tenerci, poterne.

Vieni alla mia festa? Ci tengo davvero.

Are you coming to my party? It really means a lot to me.

Non ne posso più di questo rumore.

I can't stand this noise any more.

Ce l'ho fatta! Ho passato l'esame.

I made it! I passed the exam.

Expressions with ci

Verb with ci

VerbMeaningExample
tenercito care about, to set store byCi tengo molto.
contarcito count on itCi puoi contare.
starcito be up for it; to fitFacciamo a metà? – Ci sto.
cascarcito fall for itCi è cascato di nuovo.
rimettercito lose outCi ho rimesso un sacco di soldi.
non poterci fare nienteto be unable to do anything about itMi dispiace, non ci posso fare niente.

Mi aiuti col trasloco? – Certo, ci puoi contare.

Will you help me move? – Sure, you can count on it.

In valigia non ci sta più niente.

Nothing else will fit in the suitcase.

Era uno scherzo, ma lui ci è cascato.

It was a joke, but he fell for it.

Expressions with ne

Verb with ne

VerbMeaningExample
non poterne piùto be unable to take any moreNon ne posso più.
valerne la penato be worth itÈ lontano, ma ne vale la pena.
farne a menoto do without itIl caffè? Non posso farne a meno.
uscirneto get out of a situationCome ne usciamo?
intenderseneto know a lot about somethingDi vini me ne intendo un po'.
fregarseneto not give a damn (rude)Non me ne frega niente.

Ce l'ho fatta

farcela means "to make it, to manage". The la doesn't refer to anything specific and is always feminine. In the passato prossimo it becomes l', so the participle is fatta, no matter who made it.

Il treno? Ce l'abbiamo fatta per un pelo.

The train? We only just made it.

Marco era sicuro di non farcela, invece ce l'ha fatta.

Marco was sure he wouldn't make it, but he did.

Expression or paraphrase?

The neutral paraphrase is correct, but in conversation it often sounds like a textbook. The expression sounds natural and personal. A few are rude and don't belong in formal settings.

Same statement

Neutral, more written

Per me è molto importante.

It's very important to me.

Sono stanco di questa situazione.

I'm tired of this situation.

Idiomatic, spoken

Ci tengo molto.

It means a lot to me.

Non ne posso più di questa situazione.

I've had it up to here with this situation.

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